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Inspired by isis, as we've seen before in so many different attacks in the united states and, frankly, in europe. >> phil, in the last hour, former dni james clapper was saying the fact that this guy was taken alive is a potential trove of information and also could help understand, in kind of long term, what drives people in the radicalization process. >> it can, but step back and ask a fundamental question, where is this going to get us in the long term. we've been looking at this stuff for 16 years, and you ask the question, once we understand how this happens in a democratic society, he's ...

Alive is a potential trove of information and also could help understand long term what drives people in the radicalization process. >> it can but you ask the fundamental question. where is this going to get us in the long run. we've been looking at this for 16 years. once you understand how this happens in a democratic society, he's radicalizing by looking at free speech material. he's looking at material online. and then he goes to rent a truck and people are going to say, why can't you find somebody like that? we can study this all we want and i'm not sure we're going to find answers that a...

He's been here a long time. and it may be he was here a long time with no signs of anything going on. how long was that radicalization process, the challenge today is the process can be very short, someone can have been here a long time, something goes wrong in their life and they turn to terrorism as something that make their misery seem more symbolic. that's what we just don't know about his history. i'm curious about foreign travel and who he was with here. >> julia, thank you. i want to thank everyone on the panel tonight. the president's reaction to the attack here in new york. we're at t...

Inspired by isis. does that mean he likely has contact or somebody whose as spir rational, or watch stuff online and saying -- >> it could be either. unfortunately isis has given enough information online to people who are inspired by them to conduct these kind of attacks. we've been talking for years as michael talked about there have been people coming from the caucuses joining iraq and also moving into the isis organization, so this has been an ongoing issue. if he's coming from uzbek, he's been here for seven years, he could have had contact prior to coming to this country and nothing sinc...

That's always the takeaway from these, if we can learn something from that radicalization process, can we try to avoid or deter the next person from doing this. >> chairman rogers, the suspect is from uzbekistan, which is a part of the world in many cases being described as a hotbed of radical islamic activity. but we are also told he was radicalized here in the united states. >> yeah, completely so. and interesting, early on in the air strike campaign in the early part of 2000s, uzbeks had the highest body count in these air strikes. mainly because they were great fighters. they merged into p...