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More people killed in one of the events. and what they found was a majority of the -- three fourths of the folks people involved in the killing had exhibited some kind of statement that they were going to do something. and more than half of them had -- had other people report that behavior. so what does this mean? this means that we have an opportunity to try to disrupt the radicalization process that many of the folks are going through. >> let me ask you, because you just raised a lot of things, and i want to follow up on all of them. just so everybody sees the president getting out of the be...

Brian, he hasn't today taken the adequate steps to disrupt the radicalization process. >> well, frank, let me put this back to you and i'll ask our other guests to jump in, as well. is the president in a unique position, in which he could say, listen, if you think you are doing this in my name, you are not. if you think this pleases me or serves me or serves my political cause to act violently, you need to know i'm not with you and i denounce you and i think this is repugnant and it's against what i stand for. isn't he in a position to meaningfully affect the course of some of these -- >> it w...

But that distinction is not, is -- falls on deaf ears with regard to unstable people who feel compelled to act and belong to a cause greater than themselves. so the president plays a unique role in stopping that path to violence and i have to tell you, brian, he hasn't today taken the adequate steps to disrupt the radicalization process. >> well, frank, let me put this back to you and i'll ask our other guests to jump in, as well. is the president in a unique position, in which he could say, listen, if you think you are doing this in my name, you are not. if you think this pleases me or serves...

President. it doesn't mean that he wanted to see this happen. it doesn't mean that he directly ordered or encouraged violence, but that distinction is not, is -- falls on deaf ears with regard to unstable people who feel compelled to act and belong to a cause greater than themselves. so the president plays a unique role in stopping that path to violence and i have to tell you, brian, he hasn't today taken the adequate steps to disrupt the radicalization process. >> well, frank, let me put this back to you and i'll ask our other guests to jump in, as well. is the president in a unique position,...

There is very little room between what we see in islamic jihad radicalization to violence and what we're seeing on white supremacy, white nationalism call to action. they're aligning with a leader, a kind of father figure who is giving them license. now there is a distinction. president trump, to be clear has never called for direct violent action. but understand that unstable people don't make that distinction. it's lost on them. so they're feeling encouraged by it. and the president's press conference yesterday didn't go far enough to say that he personally condemns that ideology. so the rad...