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Begin military operations, for example, rockets, artillery and armored vehicles, they could use them on russian ground before they get into ukraine. they can achieve objectives with the positioning not in ukraine. that works to putin's advantage, right? he can hover over ukraine. he is in his own territory. he has every right to do what he wants to do in russia. irrespective, of his view, what the rest of the world says right now. . >> and all the troop positions to the north are allred, radio it? these aren't permanent troop positions because they're not in russia. they are in belarus. putin ...

Demands are simple. and let's just say right now, quite strong. they want an immediate cease-fire and all russian forces to withdraw from the country. it's notable, john, that in just a few days, ukraine is in the position to make such a demand, radio it? because, remember, as this invasion began with the odds stacked against them, are issue that frankly not listening to talks or the possibility of talks. and the u.s., nato, ukraine deciding that talks were not useful because of russia's advance but also russia's enormous advantage. with the slow progress of the russian invasion, it's a differ...

Can't hold this stuff anyway. >> holding a country as large and complex as ukraine is tough. they barely had chechnya, with 22 people. ukraine has 44 million. that gives you an idea of the scale of the task for the reductions. if they're hurting enough, i assume they'll start talking. >> i want to end on this right now. people have been looking at versions of the maps. you can see, kherson here. you can see where the city is there. the areas around kyiv where the russians have moved in. just because the russian troops are operating there doesn't mean they can hold that, radio it? . >> look, we...

A foreign place, like you have never been there before. >> and it's a place that couldn't be closer to your heart, radio it? t -- right? the place you grew up. >> i played a lot of ball in my grandparents' front yard. the yard where i played little league baseball was heavily destroyed. apartments right behind my dad's house, if there were people in there, god help them. the devastation of that particular complex was overwhelming to look at. >> again, he's okay. >> he's okay. >> he had the sense to leave before the storm was coming? . >> he did. he was an avid weather watcher. he was watching ...

Open plotting. the -- both these guys have histories, you know. we have bannon, who was advising the president how in fact to bring off an insurrection, was involved with those people on the 5th and the 6th. we had gaetz in may some of the year telling people you know what the second amendment was for? it was to radio it, to go against the government, for an uprising. they don't just say we should oppose the the government or vote. bannon said we're going to hit the beach with the landing teams and all the nomen chat tur they use, he's talking about 4,000 shock troops. he's identified -- it so...