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Morning Joe-20211228-11:01:00

the cdc is out with new guidelines shortening the recommending isolation of quarantine time for those who tested positive or expose todd the virus. this comes as the fast omicron variant puts pressure on airlines and other businesses. nbc news. >> reporter: testing for the virus reaches by a crisis point. by 5:00, the lines in south florida already forming with the prospect of free covid testing kits. >> what are you seeing in shelves? >> they're all in stock and fine, i guess they all disappeared in a matter of three days like they were not there.

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Morning Joe-20211228-11:00:00

to pay for your pcr test and you have to isolate for two days. these tests are more expensive, the government is saying look, if you are here and testing, those tests are free and if you are going to take the privilege of traveling, you have to pay the price. >> molly hunter, we appreciate you staying here. happy new year. thank you for all of you waking up "way too early" with us, "morning joe" starts right now. ♪♪ good morning, welcome to "morning joe," it's december 28th, i am willie geist, joe and mika had the morning off. joining us is katty kay and jonathan lemire. happy almost new year to you.

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Morning Joe-20211228-11:03:00

quadrupled. new york governor to make this plea. >> parents i am calling on you, this is the time you have the kids home from school, there is plenty of vaccination tuns from your pediatrician to a site set up by the state of new york, our urgent care center. >> reporter: new york city is implementing the vaccine mandate in the country while adding even more testing like this site in times square. >> this is a priority. i don't need the steaks and never mind the chicken, go get the covid-19 vaccines. >> i feel like every shift we have text messages going out saying we are short and looking for a nurse, a lot of people are burnt out. >> reporter: israel testing at a fourth shot to help strengthen its virus front line.

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Morning Joe-20211228-11:18:00

>> jonathan, it's interesting on the testing because several times over the course of the last three months since the end of the summer, the president said he's going to ramp up testing. he's made it sound like in the last week or so that well omicron came out of the flu and it caught us by surprise. he has said multiple times we are really going to ramp up testing because we need more testing heading into the winter. what happened? why didn't those commitments to ramp up testing translate into actual tests heading into the winter? >> certainly there were more tests available in the last two months than the hype of the pandemic in 2020. they do fell short, you making good point, this is not the second time the white house officials have acknowledged. they have been caught off guards by the speed of the pandemic, the best example of this is on july 4th, when the united states is about to declare its

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Morning Joe-20211228-11:11:00

when you are exposed, i do think you can end quarantine early. i do agree the cdc did the right thing on that policy, you are vaccinated and you don't have to haul away in your house and waiting to test. if you tested positive or your symptomatic and you just wait. we have seen patients who have been testing positive, not just day ten, they have been testing positive for 12 days. that's not the norms. it's possible. we know there are people who are still infectious. without testing and without a distinction for vaccinated individuals and without some criteria to say what does it mean that your symptoms are resolving or what are your symptoms you should be looking for. these all mimics of common cold. true cold has no ability to get a test or not tested and for them to be locked in this confusing advisory from the cdc for weeks even.

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Morning Joe-20211228-12:12:00

the relief package? we need to stockpil some of these things in case a variant comes. >> a great question, our reporting shows there were a group of health officials who went to the white house and said we are not doing enough on testing and we should really ramp up test production and we should make sure we have an ample supply in tests. the white house did not act on that information. there was a scenario where you could have defeat testing the the same way operation warp speed conducted. the government created this enormous demand and promised companies they would have a profit if they put in enormous resources into treating these tests. that's what we did with the vaccines. the decision was made not to

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Morning Joe-20211228-12:10:00

believe that once americans are vaccinated, few would need testing. annie linsky, it's great to see you. now we are at the end of the first year which president biden announced 500 million test kits would go out to americans, that's after the holidays maybe too little and late for some kind of explosion that's coming here. what happens according to your sources to lead is to this place? going back to the first day of transition, biden's covid aides were saying look we do need a robust testing program to help get us out of the pandemic and get back to normalcy. what changed were the vaccines were so good that the biden administration instead decided to as one of my sources said put

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Morning Joe-20211228-12:11:00

all of their eggs in the vaccination basket. you know that may have worked potentially but we had delta and now omicron and the biden administration did not anticipate that we would end up essentially a 60% vaccination rate. so they did not use other measures like testing and did not prepare other measures like testing and other country took different approaches. where is the testing and could we at least secure tests for this moment, and obviously it did a lot of great for businesses. was testing not emphasized in

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Morning Joe-20211228-12:16:00

box. >> that's absolutely the question, i was asking the administration, the white house exactly that when i was reporting. i was trying to get that question by saying look, president biden has said he wants to have half a billion tests managed and manufactured, 500 million tests, that sounds like an enormous number. but if you ask the white house, what's the goal here and what's the ultimate end game, how many tests does americans need every month. they don't have an answer for it. there has not been a decision whether the country is going to have to shift its focus to go beyond vaccines and get to a point where testing is going back to normalcy.

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Morning Joe-20211228-12:04:00

is that how people should proceed? >> if you don't have symptoms, that's correct. >> does that make sense to you? >> no. i would like to say at the end of five days, you have to take a test. they did not do that because of the shortage of testing so you have a vicious circle we are making policies on the basis of whether we have tests or not. one issue is determining what symptoms are, right? >> you are a doctor and i am not a doctor, there are shades of symptoms, if you are leaving it up to people determining their own symptoms, five or six days after first testing positive that seems to me a little tricky, is it? you are 100% right.

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