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This nation is ready for that, let's fight them now. >> martha: let me ask you, what do you mean when you say let's fight them now? mark has mentioned the option of having a no-fly zone over south korea and having a policy where any missile that is set off will be shot down. is that something that you think we should adapt as a policy, general? >> i think really what you're talking about, martha, you have two real issues here. you have the conventional threat of 8,000 artillery tubes on the dmz and 4,000 rocket launchers. so they check mated us. that's what they've done for 25 years. you have ...

Are taking seriously, and so since then, and since north korea launched the icbm in july, we have not seen a lot of the actual military provocations from the north, but now in the span of this weekend, we are have seen them launch three short range ballistic missiles traveling 150-plus miles a and putting in range seoul and military bases in south korea, and even though the test runs went off in the south of japan, but you also saw the leader kim jong-un going with the special operations with dry runs to the attacking islands in south korea. so brooke, the officials sense here that it is very ...

Since harry truman. the president's chief of staff, national security and defense secretaries, all generals obviously for years have looked over military plans in the worst case scenario in north korea. how difficult or how many options does the u.s. have militarily against north korea? >> well, they have a range of options. the problem is all of them are bad. no matter what happens, any military action, it is going to precipitate the one thing that we don't want, a massive north korean attack on the south. and as general hertling said in the last hour, the human cost of that would be astronom...

The first nuclear crisis in 1994. he joins us. it is, indeed, uncertain, perilous, period. we have no idea? >> we have no idea. from the military perspective, these tests are intended not to be provocation. north koreans are a long way from making it into rocket. they have yet to prove delivery capability. the greatest is artillery and missile sides north of the dmz. these can range seoul and real prove provocation is that. the second is special forces. they have been relatively active to infiltrate in the south. >> greta: the whole military, 1.2 million citizens, i go down the streets or out ...

The first nuclear crisis in 1994. he joins us. it is, indeed, uncertain, perilous, period. we have no idea? >> we have no idea. from the military perspective, these tests are intended not to be provocation. north koreans are a long way from making it into rocket. they have yet to prove delivery capability. the greatest is artillery and missile sides north of the dmz. these can range seoul and real prove provocation is that. the second is special forces. they have been relatively active to infiltrate in the south. >> greta: the whole military, 1.2 million citizens, i go down the streets or out ...