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Rush in to fill the vacuum. it seems to me that all this question about is the u.s. negotiating the crisis, that's a marginal question in terms of the full scope of what we are seeing go toward horribly, possibly, an outright sectarian civil strife in the country. >> well, there's going to be significant strife. i don't know that it will blossom into a full-scale civil war. that's a possible, but i do think that it has dire consequences for egypt in multiple dimensions. obviously the longer it takes egypt to re-stabilize, the dilemma is egypt fails to address its larger economic crisis, which ...

We give to the e jichingyptian y every year. if we stop giving that money, we're going to lose our leverage. that's the dilemma the obama administration faces. >> the leverage doesn't amount to much in the context the gulf states pledged between $12 billion and $15 billion, p.j. they've already indicated quite publicly, i believe, if the u.s. were to suspend aid, they would rush in to fill the vacuum. it seems to me that all this question about is the u.s. negotiating the crisis, that's a marginal question in terms of the full scope of what we are seeing go toward horribly, possibly, an outrig...

Billion and $15 billion, p.j. they've already indicated quite publicly, i believe, if the u.s. were to suspend aid, they would rush in to fill the vacuum. it seems to me that all this question about is the u.s. negotiating the crisis, that's a marginal question in terms of the full scope of what we are seeing go toward horribly, possibly, an outright sectarian civil strife in the country. >> well, there's going to be significant strife. i don't know that it will blossom into a full-scale civil war. that's a possible, but i do think that it has dire consequences for egypt in multiple dimensions...