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The 44 votes in the senate, that shows right off the bat that the senate can't reach impeachment and finalize it. so i think pelosi's just slow-walking the thing right now and knows they're not going to, not going to go forward with impeachment. they're just getting as much as they can out of this. they spent two years on the russia probe with nothing to show for it. eric: they do say the senate majority leader told the senate to get ready for potential hearings, a trial in the senate, later on this month and they're talking about -- or next month, sorry. they're talking about an impeachment p...

The articles of impeachment, and that's the senate's job here. they historically have moved to a trial phase first, this led by the chief supreme court justice. then there is a full senate vote that takes place, and a two-thirds majority, or 12267 senators would need to be removed. the vice president takes his place. this final step has never been reached in our country's history. joining us now, jill wine-banks, msnbc contributor and former assistant watergate prosecutor. she knows a little bit about this history i was alluding to. jill, the question might be if we do reach impeachment, if th...