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Numbers are starting to diminish for joe biden. and he's going to be there this weekend along with 21 other democrats. what's interesting about the vice president's team is really focusing on this debate at the moment. they know that this is a moment where, you know, folks gave him a good look in the rollout. he largely passed the test. but his performance is going to be so critical. he is spending a lot of time reading memos, doing briefings with his staff. we saw him for the first time today speaking with a time limit. he had four minutes to race through a little bit of a speech that didn't ...

In advocacy. if you are going to advocate things like this, you should have some kind of experience with them beyond reading memos. i talked to former navy seals who went through waterboarding who say, oh, it's torture. there is no question about it. >> it's been torture since the spanish inquisition. if rove were a general in the philippines after the spanish-american war he would have been relieved by the commander in chief, teddy roosevelt and thrown out of the united states army for the same offense. waterboarding is torture. what rove is saying make as liar out of the president of the uni...

There are authorizations that you need. it is a full extensive process because you need to make sure it's admissible, that it's done properly, and that it is permitted and authorized. that's for a normal investigation. if you're considering doing this against the president of the united states, who was not yet even under investigation, it's fanciful to me, and that's why i think there's a critical difference between reading memos about it where you can't understand the context and the tone versus being in the room and actually hearing it. so i find it very hard to believe that he was taking th...

Speaker pelosi doesn't get it. her party is making people poor and putting them on foot stamps. that's not help. it's harm. now, he's saying the unemployment rate is up. and he can say, if he want, the democratic policies are causing that. but putting people on food stamps? >> i'm old enough to have covered 1994, when newt gingrich had the -- his revolution. i remember talking to newt gingrich, reading memos that he put out, which said, these are the words you need to use to describe the democrats. you're nodding. remember this? corrupt was one of the words, right? >> true. >> it went on and o...