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I don't care. i'm 57 years old and i have a hero. i spent four and a half years with that guy. let him go. he was the best i ever saw democrat or republican. and i just want to let it go. he's a great man. >> you mention him in this book "black site." this book is really interesting. i learned a lot here. it's about what you call the program. which was the use of black sites in interrogating terrorists in the post-9/11 world. why and how did you go back and write this? >> i love to read and write. i wanted to write a book. i realized the story after 9/11, the tension we've faced.

This morning a new assessment about just how comprehensive, how extensive was the russian effort to attack the u.s. electoral system. i just want you to look at the state's target. it says all 50 states were targeted by the russians in 2016. not a single state was spared. also new reporting that says the russians are not alone in targeting the 2020 race. joining me now is phil mud, author of the new book due out next week "the cia in the post-9/11 world." the intelligence committee are saying all 50 states were targeted. all of them. on the same day senate republicans block an electoral securi...

The way a kid today can't step back in time and understand the pressure of decision making was going to be lost. because a lot of the friends i spoke to would never speak again. i said i want to and allows them to stand in the shoes. has been called techniques. on these black sites. rendition sites. it continuing to be controversial. >> i agree with that. sometimes you got to look in the mirror and say in 2002 like it or not, this is where america was. at some point in the future america will face decisions like this again. if you want to understand what it was like in the pressure of making t...