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He said -- i said this guy is really smart. he said no crooks are smart because they always think it's not going to happen to them. this is trump's m.o., he says the most outrageous things because he never thinks it's going to have an effect on him. eventually it always does. it's happening to paul manafort and it's going to have to donald trump. >> jennifer, on that point, the -- some reporting about how manafort views all of this from his circle. with mueller closing in, manafort's allies abandon him, which most people could understand. manafort felt, quote, betrayed by two journalists who t...

Do a lot of work to articulate the difference and exactly what you're arguing. now these videos may have gone a long way to do that. >> it may open some minds. martha: they definitely opened minds on both sides i think of this issue in a large way, so that may go a bit of the distance doing just that. let's look at one of these polls where hillary is concerned. she is slipping in terms of the backing that she is getting from white women. unfavorable is now at 53% in this "wall street journal/nbc" poll. is this making jo biden look a little bit more inevitable julie. >> i don't know about inevi...