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Member of "the new york times" editorial board, josh gerstein white house reporter for politico. both our msnbc contributors. mara, we have that and we have the sum total of today. you this week wrote a poignant personal piece in the opinion section of "the new york times" about your life experience. what could we do about the entire community of american women who look at a dr. ford, look at a mara gay and say yes, you, that story, that's me? >> it's a really -- first of all, it's a sad day. should be a sad day for all-americans. it's very difficult for those of us who are sexual survivors. i...

He said in axios, my concern this morning is that trump will strip the clearances of bob mueller and the investigation team. we need access to conduct the mother of all intelligence investigations. >> and that's the real rick. trump continues to test the water to see just how far he can go. he's been using norms from the get-go. we always like to say there's no bottom and there really hasn't been with this administration but there has to be a bottom and when the president starts removing tools that law enforcement and intelligence professionals need to do their jobs, that has to be a bottom wh...

How do they fix that sort of disconnect? >> well, it is a problem because if you discourage people from making loans because they think their loans are going to be modified later that doesn't help all the people trying to get them. i think the administration is sort of balancing the set of problems they've got and this is the one, you've got 11 million people in this country who are underwater. that's a real rick for them and they've got to try to deal with that. this is one example, by the way, of the benefits of being beyond health care. this is not just one of a hundred things they're doing...