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Having been where she was at, she defended him then and basically said to the moderate tore, what do you want me to do, walk away? that's what she's doing. >> you have to take into account she's clearly trying to tease out something to get a book deal or a reality show project or something based on her experience in the white house. doesn't that taint what her commentary --? >> shift the focus away from the fact she wants to profit always and forever. >> she's always about the coin. >> she's going to do that. but understand what she's doing in the process. she's throwing him under the bus. >> ...

Argument about intent and malice. murder versus manslaughter. you could make a real argument whether or not the person was acting with intent and malice, but the other person is still dead. so the effect of it is the same. and the effect of what trump is doing is still the same. today she was confessing that is a real feature of the man. having been where she was at, that mess of a panel she was on, she defended him then and basically said to the moderator, what do you want me to do, just walk away? that's what she's doing now. >> you have to take into account she's clearly trying to tease out...