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it just wasn't real. >> they're sociopaths -- and pretty big ones. >> now -- almost 30 years later -- chilling new details. evidence never broadcast before! a letter, hinting at secrets too dark to imagine. >> this is so outside of the norm something is going on in that house. >> did they kill in cold blood or in crippling fear? >> oh man it was gut-wrenching. i wanted to bust the door down. >> they spoke the truth about what had happened. tonight, hear from the brothers themselves. >> people were afraid of him. >> let's go through this bit by bit. >> there was no way he was gonna le...

>> reporter: big deal? the prosecution thought so, but by then the jury had already heard many hours of tearful testimony about abuse, and that is when, in december 1993 they retired to consider a verdict. >> we made a mistake right off the bat. >> reporter: hazel thornton was on erik's jury. >> we took a show of hands as to what level of guilt we thought that they were, and it became immediate that it was men against women, murder versus manslaughter. >> reporter: the main issue, said hazel, was the brother's story of the abuse. the women believed them. the men did not. >> did discussions get...

Testimony about abuse, and that is when - in december, 1993 they retired to consider a verdict. >> we made a mistake right off the bat. >> hazel thornton was on erik's jury. >> we took a show of hands as to what level of guilt we thought that they were, and it became immediate that it was men against women, murder versus manslaughter. >> the main issue, said hazel, was the brother's story of the abuse. the women believed them. the men did not. >> did discussions get heated? >> oh, yes. the public thinks that the women were emotional in the trial. it was the men who were emotional. they pounded...

Argument about intent and malice. murder versus manslaughter. you could make a real argument whether or not the person was acting with intent and malice, but the other person is still dead. so the effect of it is the same. and the effect of what trump is doing is still the same. today she was confessing that is a real feature of the man. having been where she was at, that mess of a panel she was on, she defended him then and basically said to the moderator, what do you want me to do, just walk away? that's what she's doing now. >> you have to take into account she's clearly trying to tease out...

Omarosa has this machiavellian genius that allows her to smile in your face and stab you in the back. this is probably one of the most devastating interviews by someone who first in trump's inner circle i have read or seen because she's essentially confessing that he has a race problem. the semantic line is very thin. you might want to frame it as an argument about intent and malice. murder versus manslaughter. you could make a real argument whether or not the person was act with intent and malice, but the other person is still dadea. but the effect is the same. today she was confessing that i...