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a criticism that, you know, the obama administration maybe didn't do enough to settle and explain and talk about their stimulus efforts and want to make sure that people around the country really know what's in the bill, know what's coming and the kind of impact it's having. >> there's a conversation that we'll watch how it plays outside of washington. do the additional benefits help people. they showed up at their briefing wearing masks and trying to make the case, the republican argument that the biden administration is not pushing aggressively enough there. you see follow the s...

That message to the population that, in fact, this was not a drill, that this was actually not happening, that this was a false alarm. that is all changing now. they want to make sure this never happens again. for those folks who don't live in hawaii and don't realize it, the population here has been told by emergency managers that they will have, if north korea were to fire off a ballistic missile, that they would only have about 20 minutes until impact here in hawaii. that's why people got so worried, so upset, because they thought this is it, that there was possibly a nuclear attack and her...

Development away from the suburbs. >> megyn: and you were talking in your piece, how, yes, this focuses-- this initiative proposed focuses on greenhouse gas emissions and make the environment more green and you know, your carbon footprint he when you live in an 800 square foot apartment in manhattan is much, much smaller than if you live in a 3000 square foot home in the burbs, that's clear and could be one of the goals. you also say this is about wealth redistribution on a grand scale. how so? how does the redistribution of wealth? >> well, that's what i talk about in the book, megyn. if you ...

That often thank goodness, but it happens and it seems like it's happening too often. >> right, yeah, and the unfortunate part of it, it goes a little with the territory. nobody takes these jobs in order to intentionally sacrifice themselves for the job. they know it goes with the territory and it's a long shot risk, but it's one that inherently that the individuals accept. their families don't. and the hardest part families left without a father, a head of a household, or a mother in some cases. it's extremely hard on the families as well. >> megyn: they put their lives on the line to try to ...

The and the feds didn't budget it for 26 states and that it would be so nationalized and in a position they're going to have to. marc, i want to ask you, there's a report from adp, concerns about job losses, concerns that employers, now that it's you know, what is it the rubber is hitting the road, that the employers are really going to start cutting back on it, on jobs, potentially, because if you go over 50 employees now, it's going to cost you some money. >> that's exactly right. the new york times featured a story about this company in san diego called the bakery. and they have 95 employee...