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>> yeah. i mean, one thing to say that you have to remember china is very different from japan because there are so many chinese. they don't have to be as productive as we are to become the world's largest economy. so by some measures they already are. but they are also having a lot of problems. the chinese model, it really does seem to be coming apart at the seams right now. and the u.s., look, america has been, at least it is a very -- i think our openness, our openness to different people, to different ideas, our creativity that comes out of that has been our underlying strength. ...

Meaning, i'm a big fan of prudential measures against covid. but china went with this draconian policy of lockdowns, which has clearly become unsustainable. the later variants are too contagious. you end up totally disrupting the economy totally disrupting people's lives. but the trouble with not being a democracy, the trouble with having a authoritarian leader is that nobody could tell him he's wrong. and nobody could tell him that, look, this policy we've been following isn't working and so what we're seeing now, we're seeing a realtime lesson in why authoritarian regimes in the end lose out...

Your body of reporting about trump's erratic nature in his public comments and anything you've detected from your sources that it extends into his national security thinking? >> i can say this without any sort of -- i'm not passing judgment, but he really is getting a realtime lesson in modern american foreign policy. this is not the first time we've heard him talk about the nuclear arsenal. with vladimir putin he said something similar he wanted to boltster the nuclear capabilities. he likes talking about nukes. remember this was a guy that was a ceo for decades, he came into a position he di...

President in the first year in our history. even the enemies and the haters admit that. >> suffice it to say a lot to talk about this hour. we begin here. the president's long-time lawyer and fixer, michael cohen, back in federal court in new york this hour. president trump getting a realtime lesson in just why his lawyers keep begging him to stop talking about pending cases. the court hearing is for an update on how to handle the records and materials the fbi seized from cohen's offices and his home. because those materials relate to cohen's work for the president, there is, of course, extra ...