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Wanted to secure a victory that he could show off, because terry mcauliffe is up for election on tuesday. where does this leave us? >> i mean, right now, i think we have this framework -- i don't think the white house really, really thought that this was going to completely figure itself out, be completely hashed out, because they knew progressives were still balking, knew that progressives didn't fully trust and still don't trust that the reconciliation framework that turned into a bill is going sty that way, even though they've endorsed it and said, we're okay with this. so that framework is...

Democrats. that's for sure. how much it will help the party politically, that's a lot less sure. the good news for democrats right now is that president biden as he begins his trip abroad, is nearing the finish line on nearly $3 trillion worth of agenda items here at home. as the dust settles on a topsy turvy, mixed up 24 hours, it's clear virtually every democrat wants to get to yes on these deals. progressives endorse the president's reconciliation framework. manchin says he's okay with the size of it. sinema is finally talking directly with house democrats. there's a widespread agreement on...

Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) signaled on Thursday that he could support the $1.75 trillion price tag for Democrats' social spending plan, even as he hasn't said if he supports the overall framework deal. 

Before they could pledge to support the fifth. right now i'm learning from the source that there are nine house democrats, and it speaker pelosi is trying to work through those members and hopefully change their minds and are hoping that reconciliation framework in the text that's out is going to be enough, and house republicans that are, that's a high 15 but it's a safe ten. it's a tough calculation for pelosi who did not like to bring the vote to the floor and include in her web count, and that from a democrat standpoint, and the credit if that were to succeed. it's a tough call for pelosi, ...

To be with you and they are not. they don't have to run against trump. they can run against what trump and the republican congress have done. >> and that was blamed on democrats. saying the corporate, the structure of the bill, corporate had to be permanent but individual could not because democrats refused to work with them. does that make sense? >> it does. weren't getting bipartisan support and couldn't do anything outside the reconciliation framework. again, that's beside the point. if democrats want to run on a populist message, that's an economic message and not against trump. look aroun...