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I did support federal action to address root causes of segregation in our schools including taking on banks, red lining, trying to change the way neighborhoods were segregated. in fact, i cast the deciding vote in 1974 against an amendment called the gurney amendment which would have banned the federal courts to be able to use bugging as a remedy. in the middle of the most extensive bust known in american history, my cities, my states. it wasn't what you called the most popular vote in the country. so reverend jackson, we spent a lot of time working together over the years on a lot of issues t...

People like jim clyburn -- i mean he marched against these sorts of issues in states like south carolina where i'm from, for instance. i mean are you worried about members of the cbc -- you're of course one of the leaders of the cbc -- carrying this mantle for joe biden if he's continuing to defend states' rights? >> well, look, i don't think he was trying to defend states' rights. >> but he did. i mean that's exactly what he did do. >> okay. in your opinion he tried to defend states' rights. i think what i saw was a person attempt to start to explain all of the nuances of that argument at the...

President biden has a clear record on civil rights. i think everybody who knows him and knows his character knows he's somebody who has fought for civil rights his entire career. >> should folks not expect him to say he's evolved? >> just a second. bussing is a complicated issue. it's a complicated issue. there are those in the civil rights community and those in delaware at the time in the african-american community who said, you know, this is not the solution to ensure that schools are integrated and what joe biden was focused on was doing the things that would tackle systemic racism in our ...

Our communities, including taking on the banks and red lining and trying to change the way in which neighborhoods were segregated. i've always been in favor of using federal authority to overcome state initiated segregation. >> well, last night senator harris said that she respects the former vice president and does not believe he is a racist. but "the new york times" says the confrontation between the two of them could see a change in the contest, noting it illustrated both mr. biden's vulnerability and the urgency his rivals feel to start sowing doubts of his candidacy with voters. steve mcm...

Segregation in our schools and communities including taking on the banks and redlining and trying to change the way in which neighborhoods were segregated. i've always been in favor of using federal authority to overcome state-nirked segregation. i thought my heart out to ensure that voting rights, equal rights are enforced everywhere. these rights are not up to the states to decide, they're our federal government's duty to decide. it's a constitutional question to protect the civil rights of every single american, and that's always been my position. >> here's the thing about last night in man...