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Supposed to be republicans are supposed to be for competition, the insurers, the state insurance plans that will be in competition to lower costs. all of this stuff. what you're doing, sean, you're-- >> you're denying reality. go ahead, mary. >> there are people denying he reality and it's not me, sean. >> listen, now, what they're calling competition is the opposite of free market. when the government is dictating who gets covered, what gets covered, how much gets covered, that's not competition and that's not a free market. there are other release mechanism is to subsidize people who otherwi...

Again. we've got to pay for social security some way or another. and the people, look, social security has always been sort after shell game, also. and it's a redistribution scheme where money is transferred from the young to the old. you know, this is reality and pretending that we can perpetuate these holidays in perpetuity and nobody will ever have to pay for it is dilutional. i mean, is everybody in in town on lsd or what? i mean, the government consumes money. it has to get money from someplace and the idea that 2% of the population is going to have their taxes increased by 4.5% and that'...

It's shameful. you know, we are six months now past his attempt to overthrow the election. j.d. vance is, i think, the starkest example of the flip flop but it's happening across all of these republican primaries. >> mark: as i said, i'm interested in guys who are trying to move the meter. and j.d. vance seems to be doing his bid on that front. here he is in "newsweek," nearly every major business and financial leader in this country is a supporter of the democratic party. they love illegal immigration for the simple reason that their livelihoods are subsidized by illegal immigration while ill...

Decile making between $21,000 and $61,000. that's not the rich. >> exactly. this is to my original point which is there's a political element here so the obama constituency, the core of obama's votes come from the lowest on the income scale and the highest, the very rich and the poor voted for obama. everyone else didn't. so is it any surprise that obamacare helps the lowest, doesn't affect the highest and shafts the middle? >> well, i mean it should, i think, wake a couple people up in the middle class, because democrats talk endlessly point middle class. they claim at least to be champions o...

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