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The states seats that they can put together. >> i take your point. and i agree with you that extreme gerrymandering has been pervasive and insidious across the country, in particular republican led states, like texas and florida. we are clearly you have legislatures that will work to corrupt the redistricting process. ll wbut i don't believe that tht fact compels democrats to be the same. far from it. as a policy matter, republicans -- democrats believe in good governance. that means nonpartisan redistricting. that is wildly popular on a nonpartisan basis. colorado, has a relatively new style ...

Republicans can just maximize the number of seats they put together. >> well, i take your point. i mean, obviously i agree with you that extreme and partisan gerrymandering has become insidious and pervasive across the country, in particular republican-governed states, right? largely. states like texas and florida where clearly you have legislatures that will work to corrupt the redistricting process. but i don't believe that that fact ultimately compels or would warrant democrats doing the same. far from it. i think as you said as a policy matter democrats believe in good government. we belie...

Support fair district rules for the state legislator. meaning, we are saying with our voice and our vote that we will no longer live in congressional districts that are drawn to red line ohio voters' choice. >> our great state cannot undertake another decade where a radical few have over -- have taken over the ability to create policy that impacts all of us. >> do you think public pressure works? do you think it's effective and makes a difference in how these maps get made? >> well, i think it's interesting in ohio that while they are holding these hearings, these hearings are held during the ...

The fate of american politics for the next decade is being determined right now in the next few months. what i mean by that is the redistricting process is already underway. statehouses across the country are using the newly-released 2020 census data to carve out congressional and state legislative districts that could cement political power for the next decade. and with the blessing of chief justice john roberts' supreme court, which ruled in 2019 that federal judges do not have the power to step in and stop partisan gerrymandering, no matter how extreme. republicans who need to flip only fiv...

It's a global phenomenon, urbanization, actually america has been a little slower at it. well all of in becomes a factor when congressional maps are redrawn. but here is something to consider. who draws the maps? republicans hold a massive advantage over democrats. some of the biggest gains gains reported in the census came in states where republicans control the redistricting process. you can see republicans can redraw 164 districts compared to democrats who can redistrict just 46. we already learned back in april when top line data from the census released which states gain seats and which w...