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So, that's why this morning, keir starmer is saying to the government, finally, this economic crime bill is important. it will give us some of the legislative and economic weapons we don't yet have. but it needs toughening up. and if the government will work with labor to do that, during the passage of this legislation, getting it through the house of commons and lords, we'll get full cooperation. >> this invasion has forced, i think, many people to rethink stances that they've had about things for a long time. sweden now plans to spend more on defense. so does germany. will labor support a si...

At the size of england, i think. >> i think there's two things. the size of the territory, welcome back to that. but there's 40 million people that want him there. and they're showing him every day with remarkable resistance, bravery. stoicism. that he just can't hold that country. i think any nation who thinks is going to hold a country of 40 million plus people, who just don't want you there, regardless of the size, is killing themselves. so, he may be saying that taking over ukraine, removing it as a supposed threat to russia, i just can't see him being advice -- even by those yes many that...

Situations than we are. >> where you are, are you able to move around at all? our or you can find to -- >> know, we don't leave the house. i have left the house in over ten days. only outside i go is the little outside garden that we have here on the actual house garden. where we can walk our dog and that's it. i haven't gone outside. my boyfriend did. he goes sometimes to get some food. that's still a challenge because all the nearby shots shops, they don't have anything pretty much. you have to get their really early to get some milk and maybe one loaf of bread. and that's pretty much it. >>...

And indeed the uk has had a long, decades long problem with russian money in london, and elsewhere in the country. so this is not to say we should keep ignoring this problem. we have ignored it for too long and we have seen the results of ignoring that. but fundamentally, what we need to be doing is causing the russian academy. getting rid of the oligarchs held, because these are the people who can whisper into britain's ear. but i think, making oligarchs the marquee, the measure by which are going to judge the progress you're making, has been unhelpful for the government. >> you have in fact ...

Russian occupied forces. they will go on regardless. >> so, this is potentially what our own foreign secretary called, before the invasion, a potential for a quagmire for the russians. i think she was calling to mind afghanistan. maybe the first egyptian. >> yes. the difference between a quagmire, as we would understand it, and what would be happening in ukraine under the circumstances, is the russians are absolutely -- they won't play by any rules of nicety. they will kill all the civilians indiscriminately. they will be incredibly brutal. and that is again another reason we should be looking...