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It's not how trade works, correct? >> well, i don't know how you expected mexico to pay for it. if you wanted them to stack crisp $100 bills on a pallet like obama did for iran, that was not going to happen. i don't think they were going to do a bank check or wire transfer. you know, i always knew the president's refrain line from the campaign was going to come back to haunt him. i just didn't know how much the media was going to obsess over it. in the end it's one hand in one pocket one handout of the other pocket. this is going to get paid for. and you can define it however you want. >> van,...

It's not a wall, it's not going to be from sea to shining sea. it's more a barrier. and importantly, it's augmented by people and technology. technology is certainly not bells and whistles as the president has described it. that's what the professionals down on the border believe is necessary and that's what secretary kelly talked about early in his tenure. >> michael, the idea that mexico is already paying for the wall because of the nafta replacement, that's just not true. it's not how trade works, correct? >> well, i don't know how you expected mexico to pay for it. if you wanted them to st...