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Trust mexico's leaders know best steps and we urge timely action on their part. the united states also has a message for those who are currently part of this caravan or any caravan which follows. you will not be successful at getting into the united states illegally. no matter what. i repeat the caravan will not cross our southern border illegally under any circumstances if you seek so-to-come here, go through the normal refugee process. if you apply for refugee status, a permanent solution is possible in mexico or in a third country. but i can tell with you certainty we are determined that il...

Denial. there was a class action lawsuit south which was successful. they had to adjudicate the kp m claims. there no really legal mechanisms to apply for asylum outside of the united states for those individuals, whereas people from other countries there maybe a refugee process. >> the denial rates are quite high. we had a graphic up of 88% of people denied these asylum claims when they make them. the homeland security secretary said very clearly come to a port of entry, apply for asylum. that's one way of doing it. we're hearing reports of folks doing that. they're being turned away. they're...

>> this is confusing for people. i want to walk through it carefully. there are two ways you can come, refugees you stay in your country, you're in honduras, an apply through the u.s. embassy to be a refugee. the other is an sigh lum seeker which you show up and say i want to be taken in because i'm fleeing violence or persecution. you're saying the trump administration changed the refugee process to make it more difficult. >> absolutely. it was in august of 2017 they changed the policy under obama who was trying to stem the tide of unaccompanied minors coming north that he allowed people to a...

The other is an sigh lum seeker which you show up and say i want to be taken in because i'm fleeing violence or persecution. you're saying the trump administration changed the refugee process to make it more difficult. >> absolutely. it was in august of 2017 they changed the policy under obama who was trying to stem the tide of unaccompanied minors coming north that he allowed people to apply for this within their home countries which did diminish the amount of people try to come over. in order to be hard, the president ended up being stupid and pushing this type of issue that ended up creatin...

Them and i call them all the time. recently i wanted to have conversations with michael ha d heyden and people he hooked me up with. people from the rescue committee, i wanted to understand the vetting process. i was going back to serbia. i wanted to understand the vetting process. the bans that president-elect trump was putting in place and how he and many other people chose to get elected were by telling you to be afraid. ville identifying a peel, the muslim community. >> so this got you into this issue itself. the refugee into it. >> what did? >> you yourself. the more you learned about it....