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When the tax rate was -- excuse me -- was 2%. when the tax rate went down to 38% or below, we grew at five%. my point is this is not taxes. what is key, let's take murderrive and regalations on businesses, they have increased. if they are paying 33% more for regulations per individual, you are not opening up the line for that star runningback to get through. i understand the simplified tax rate form. but it is focusing on small businesses and giving them the opportunity with trained, skilled workforce, not that much reg iewdle, to burst through the line. that's where the focus should be. >> er...

Taxes on the middle class. who is proposing to raise taxes? obama? who has a whole range of tax increases in obamacare? obam a. biden pivots and charges the republicans with something totally false, after having atd mitted that in the time he was vice-president, the middle class was buried. i agree with paul ryan's characterization. buried by tax, buried by unemployment and buried by reg iewdle, it's buried by debt and a variety of government actions, under obama and biden. i am sure that he wishes he hadn't said it. but joe biden in that case, was sharing an insight into what's happened. >> g...