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The cost of the coverage increases. so they have pegged it to age. there is an opportunity to put some means testing in there, but that's not the most -- that's not the correlation factor to what it actually costs. age is the thing that correlates best. >> but age is also -- i mean, this is also -- and this is a part of obamacare that didn't work, which is to try to get as many young people on the system. they needed 40% of folks under 35 in the system to keep premiums down. how do you do it? how does it do it here? because this system seems to say to say to folks under 35, don't worry about...

>> i'm not sure exactly what the goal is. we we pretty clear in the obama administration what the point was, insure everybody. we know we had to fix insurance rules. people who were buying insurance on their own needed some financial help in the marketplace because they didn't have an employer contribution. you could keep kids on their parents' plan and make medicaid equal across the country, whether you lived in georgia or california you qualified as a low-income adult at the same level. i'm not sure what the goal is here. so they have kept some pieces. the pre-existing condition, they have k...

Sharing. i was interested in the piece in this bill that has a state stability pool, recognizing that you really do need to get stable market. this also was a mononoll listic market for decades before the affordable care act. i was in florida last year. pat geghty, who is the head of elue cross blue shield of florida, florida has not been a welcoming state to this law. pat geraghty ended up 2016 open enrollment with one million members in the florida marketplace and as a company in the black. he said of course this works. we can make it work. we can go forward. >> i want to play something that...

System can't be run by the free market alone. >> no, not at all. obviously, this is a transition we're going through, but the important thing is to appreciate that the market as it is right now is failing. obamacare and the aca has failed. you've got premium going up a deductibles where people have an insurance card but no coverage. a third of the counties in this nation who only have one insurer offering coverage. that's not a choice, nor is it responsible to the individuals who are going to be selecting the coverage. so what we need to do is to fix this and move in a direction that puts pati...

So i'm not sure that president trump thinks that far ahead. he was looking for the easy victory and easy score. >> this gets to the issue of president trump and it goes to this comment he made that obamacare was to implode in 2017. he so easily grabs on to a myth to make a quick point and it backfires on him. >> one of the reasons this country is great and pretty successful is we have institutions that are basically pretty honest and of course, they make mistakes and we have the bureau of labor statistics and they make us smarter and a lot of people out there in the world are saying they're al...