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>> yeah, i mean, david jolly, i refuse to become a hostage to the laws of relativity. i mean, if our democracy is sort of the victim of abuse, maybe cipollone wasn't kicking our democracy, but he certainly wasn't jumping up and down and trying to save it until he ended up in the oval office watching mike flynn and sidney powell and some guy he'd never seen or heard of before, the overstock.com guy in his sworn testimony trying to burn it down. what do you make of how relative to the worst actors we hold up the better ones? >> well, i think it's important we don't fall for the mere contrast bec...