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And a bit more this year. whoever owns channel 4 in 2024 will be running the paralympics because it makes a lot of commercial sense. clearly, channel 4 would dispute strongly that it is not efficiently run. i would ask you, though, a different question, though, david. can i ask you a different question? all the problems you raise here, that its remit�*s not clear enough, that the remit�*s not being properly enforced by the regulator, that it's not efficient enough... why does privatisation sort any of those problems out? it seems to you've identified a problem and the solution that does no...

So when alex said it doesn't cost the taxpayer anything, it costs the taxpayer at least £75 million in wasted resources and payments. that wouldn't occur if it was run more efficiently, and if it were privately owned, and i have to say this. the paralympics cost £7 million in 2012 and rather more in 2016 and a bit more this year. whoever owns channel 4 in 2024 will be running the paralympics because it makes a lot of commercial sense. clearly, channel 4 would dispute strongly that it is not efficiently run. i would ask you, though, a different question, though, david. can i ask you a differe...

The paralympics cost £7 million in 2012 and rather more in 2016 and a bit more this year. whoever owns channel 4 in 2024 will be running the paralympics because it makes a lot of commercial sense. clearly, channel 4 would dispute strongly that it is not efficiently run. i would ask you, though, a different question, though, david. can i ask you a different question? all the problems you raise here, that it's remit�*s not clear enough, that the remit�*s not being properly enforced by the regulator, that it's not efficient enough, why does privatisation sort any of those problems out? it se...