CNN Smerconish December 13, 2014 23:27:00
It seems to me much of the criticism leveled against the enhanced interrogation techniques could be made exponentially about some of the casualties that result from use of the drone campaign. where do you think this debate is going next? >> oh, i think the drone will stop also. and that's kind of the last step, you know. right now we're defending ourselves with peripheral things, michael. the rendition interrogation program is over. the drone strikes will be over and special forces raids are great, beautifully done, but they're ineffective in the sense of winning. we're losing this war, michae...