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Government per se. there's a separation there. not so much when it comes to russia. so vladimir putin, if you're a rich businessman in russia, it's likely you know somebody in the government. so the question is how did a conditioned, even an under dog, have someone like paul manafort, who had a history of working with pro-russian ukrainians and the russian oligarch in question right now with the latest reporting. how did somebody like that who had the ties with russian become a campaign chairman for a presidential candidate, then the republican party nominee. then you ask yourself the bigger q...

Tekt of the u.s. pulling out of the iran nuclear clear, tiranias are blocking at the idea of a new agreement. thank you, jim. the former defense secretary, former cia director, ron panetta is joining us. thank you for joining us. >> nice to be with you. >> tw"the washington post" is reporting that paul manafort aufrds to give private briefings to a russian billionaire with ties to the kremlin. what do you make of that reported offer? >> well, obviously it's an additional area for bob mueller to look at as part of his investigation. it simply is part of this drip, drip evidence that we've see...

Interaction. maybe didn't break the law in any way, but something at stake for himself. and lastly we knew he had done work, again not illegal, for the pro-russia side in ukraine, prior to his involvement with president trump. >> the "new york times" reporting the special council, robert mueller is seeking all sources of white house documents involving the firing of the fbi director james comey, the firing of the national security advisor michael flynn. what does this tell you of the scope of the investigation. >> that it's very wide. and also what's extraordinary is it seemed to playout in re...

>> cnn as you probably know is reporting that a fisa court granted two warrants for the fbi to surveil manafort, the former campaign chairman. is this the type of communication they might have been looking for, what "the washington post" is now reporting? >> i wouldn't be surprised by the fact that they would try to determine just one wha kit kind conversations paul manafort had, certainly based on his contacts, with his relationships with the russians at various levels it would make sense for the special prosecutor to see if they can gather additional evidence. >> nooms t "new york times" is ...

Contacts between people associated with the trump campaign and russians. and this comes as just another area to be explored by the special prosecutor. >> "the washington post" is reporting also there's no evidence the russian billionaire in question actually accepted manafo manafort's office, but could even an offer made by the trump campaign comparemhairman, coulde that person vulnerable to russian influence? >> i just think the mere tfact that they would offer a briefing on a political campaign to a russian billionaire, someone obviously related to an adversary of the united states raises so...