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He was stuck with it. it is a headline because it is an admission against interest. he's not very good at loitering for his client on television. he's not good as a p.r. guy on television. >> i want to read this from "the washington post" of september in 2018, remember what he said to chris there. this is from rudy giuliani, he says he also thinks that manafort has no evidence to suggest that trump campaign colluded with russians. there is nothing that's adverse to the president, the trump's family and the trump's campaign. >> that's exactly opposite of what he sent. he said the collusion woul...

Information about as as -- conspiracy maybe good or bad. it does not make a difference. conspire is a more legal word for collusion. >> internal polling data he says is cooked. what kind of excuses is that, john? > >> that's no excuse at all. it could have been cooked information for the russians to set up a social media campaign knowing what was of interest through manafort through the campaign. john dean, thank you. >> thank you, don >> rudy giuliani is calling on robert mueller to release his report tonight. >> show us what you got, put up or shut up. >> the big question is will we ever see...

It's not my guy which is what we have to backup to when they realize there is evidence coming up. >> it is a brilliant strategy, don't you think? we get information and report manafort comes out, right? all of a sudden rudy giuliani comes on and he gets this whole chaos -- it is a brilliant strategy because it is almost like clock ward, don't you think? >> if he does it all the time. it's a whole strange acts that he does sometimes. some people may think that rudy giuliani lost it. it is a question, why does he want to hit the his historical -- the strategy is oh yeah of course the campaign ma...

Is just his sort of get us spinning. >> well, i think he knows that the end is coming. mueller is starting to wrap up and there are a couple of areas left to do. most of the things have started to resolve. he knows information is going to get out and there is going to be evidence of collusion between the campaign and the russians. he's trying to get in front of that by saying okay maybe that's there and we don't know. we have to backup to when they realize there is evidence coming up. >> it is a brilliant strategy, don't you think? we get information and report manafort comes out, right? all o...