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Very quickly. the pruitt story seems to be different because there was a reporting piece. there was a whistle blower piece. then there was a public piece. i mean, this has got to be one of the more well known and disliked epa chiefs in any party in a long time. here was this moment that sort of captured a lot of civic imagination of someone confronting pruitt in person. take a look. >> hi. i just wanted to urge you to resign because of what you're doing to the environment and our country. this is my son. he loves animals. he loves clean air. we deserve to have somebody that actually does prote...

That's near where michael brown got killed. >> as you say, you did it quickly, but you did it thoroughly. thank you for being here. we want a term from the reporting piece. from the justice piece, good evening to you. what do you make of what you just heard and its significance in not the outcome of the grand jury decision, but whether the grand jury processed here was normal, june form or fair? >> as we've said all along, we didn't think the grand jury process was normal or fair for michael brown to get justice. in fact, where he think, when you look at how they questioned this witness as opp...

>> all over the place. >> exactly. so it seems to have equal weight to the grand jury and she was nowhere to be found, nowhere near where michael brown got killed. >> as you say, you did it quickly, but you did it thoroughly. thank you for being here. we want a turn from the reporting piece. from the justice piece, good evening to you. what do you make of what you just heard and its significance in not the outcome of the grand jury decision, but whether the grand jury processed here was normal, uniform or fair? >> as we've said all along, we didn't think the grand jury process was normal or fa...

Narrative -- >> all over the police. place. >> exactly. so it seems to have equal weight to the grand jury and she was nowhere to be found. that's near where michael brown got killed. >> as you say, you did it quickly, but you did it thoroughly. thank you for being here. we want a term from the reporting piece. from the justice piece, good evening to you. what do you make of what you just heard and its significance in not the outcome of the grand jury decision, but whether the grand jury processed here was normal, june form or fair? >> as we've said all along, we didn't think the grand jury pr...

Know, you get thrown into a pundit world. >> and that's the point. that's the point. >> by the way, we've all said things we wish we could take back. my god, i say something every day i wish i could take back. >> more than one thing, joe. >> just count the minutes. >> you just nailed a point. i mean, get out, reporting as opposed to punditry. if you read the piece in "the new york times" on sunday, it's a reporting piece. it's amongst the people there at that convention. if you wrote covering the massachusetts primary scott brown's senate campaign or whatever. if you were out, chuck, you see t...