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Gingrich and santorum and hope his voters are going to support him overwhelmingly which he needs to the fall. >> shepard: he wants newt gingrich out of this race. he has said it his campaign has said it at least. without super pacs, the casino magnet who is funding his campaign he would have been gone a long time ago. >> both santorum and gingrich would have been gone. neither have campaigns or real resources at the end of the day gingrich loves the limelight. why should he go away. he is not going to get invited to your show if is he a noncandidate. they will stay in as long as they can. >> s...

Popular vote victory, he still is in jeopardy of not winning the actual delegates themselves, shep. >> shepard: all right, carl, thanks very much. i want to get to ed rollins now. the polls closed in ohio just about two and a half minutes from now and we will go there. ed rollins a republic strategist, long time friend of the program and smart guy within the republic establishment who really pulls no punches and sets it straight. we were talking during the commercial break just a moment ago about what seems to be most interesting tonight, ed, and you said that the catholics aren't going for th...

Those two different scenarios lend two different political relates. one is the republic candidates keep fighting with each other and leave each other battered and bruised as they have been over the last few weeks. the other is mitt romney gets the 200 to 215, maybe 220 delegates he is hoping to gather tonight to get over that 400 threshold and then he starts focusing singularly on barack obama. i'm guessing the republic establishment would prefer the latter. >> chris: yeah. but he can focus on barack obama but if santorum and gingrich are still in the race and they are focusing on mitt romney ...

>> chris: there clearly is an effort by some members, you know, you can't call it a cohesive group but of the so-called tea party faction within the party to rally around gingrich or at least to stop this march which we seem to be headed towards romney at least in florida. obviously that's something that gingrich has to tap into. that's a very important part of the party. maybe not organized but there is certainly a tea party strain, which is against big government, which is antiestablishment. gingrich is a kind of curious messenger from that because nobody could have been more a part of the r...

That would worry me. in the exit polls, 51% of people who voted for huntsman said they were satisfied with barack obama as their president. i can't imagine that constituency existing anywhere out there big time inside the republic party. so, i don't know how he grows from here or how he fairs in south carolina. >> chris: also, 70% of the huntsman voters describe themselves as moderate and liberals. karl, the super pac released an ad today attacking romney by linking him to a villain of the democratic party. let's take a look at the ad. >> the republic establishment's king maker is lining up fo...