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What you tweeted, the list of the 2010 republicans? >> yes. thank you for the free promotion. many of these folks who voted for the bill were same folks who eight years ago were screaming from the high heavens about reckless spending, fiscal irresponsibility and what made the 2010 wave feel so unique for those of us who covered t those of us who remembered it were these folks running for office were not distancing themselves from the democratic party. they were distancing themselves from george w. bush and the old republican party. that's what made 2010 feel like a watershed. they said if you ...

His colleague or president might know. i just think he's doing a great job and i know that a lot of people in republican campaigns want mike pence with them in campaigning for them. he helps with the base, he helps in fundraising. you know, we have a senate race in indiana who's very competitive. we hope to make very competitive and pence is going to be very involved there. >> one thing too, it does seem that he's been very close to the koch brothers for example, and kind of that committee of business leaders who have been advising the republican party. the fact that they almost seem to ignore...

Brutal. and, yamiche, there is some discrepancy here about, you know, the president's past history, yes, sam's point is absolutely well taken. however, he also seems to say or has said in the past that men who are violent towards their wives will never change and they always will be, which makes this axios reporting interesting. >> it's interesting, but it's complex. but when i think about kellyanne going on tv saying this is all sides, it takes me back to charlottesville and the idea of both sides. this is an administration that is always trying to balance not -- not really seeming as though ...

Won't happen now. we've got to stand firm on what we've learned in the past. that is that we must secure the border first and foremost before we start talking about any kind of permanent solution. >> how are you doing? >> pretty good. >> good to talk to you. you spent a lot of time talking to the bannon folks of the party. given what's happened to him recently and his lelectoral unsuccess over the past few years, is that the support you want? >> it's unfortunate that steve chose the path that he did of attacking the president and his family. i think that was definitely the wrong way to go. i s...

Infrastructure, the idea that he wants to spend trillions of dollars on all these different things explains to you why he's a different kind of republican. and the fact they also paid for this or they voted for this tax cut shows you that these republicans are really about what makes them look good. and the idea is i think that donald trump as long as he wants it, he might get it from this republican party. >> tim, how much of this do you think is about -- we have heard whisperings at least -- not even whisperings. we heard paul ryan say we have to tackle entitlements in order to do this and t...