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>> understatement. senator. there's a lot of talk about how this bill is going to essentially try to circumvent senator collins and senator paul, if they're able to do that, they don't need those two senators, mike pence can break a tie, if they lose senator murkowski, they're not going to be able to pass this bill. if all eyes are potentially on murkowski right now. are the democrats talking to her behind the scenes? are you talking to her behind the scenes to fry to convince her not to go along with this. >> of course we talk to our republican colleagues. we don't know, you know, senator mur...