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Half. it even actually started before covid. we were seeing a big rise in gun sales. and now, what we're seeing is a lot of first-time gun buyers are black people or latinos. they're leading this surge in gun purchasing. and, michael, it's -- it's -- it's crazy to say it but it's like an arms race, amongst people. it's like, you know, how we used to have the united states and russia building new-nuclear weapons. now, it's bob and michael getting new guns. and people are doing it, because they feel the united states is a very individualistic society. and people feel a need that -- to protect th...

Core of who he supposedly is why we supposedly those of white house love him love him, because he's independent and doesn't need anybody's money. but a fib out of donald trump? and this only counts in my book as a fib by his campaign manager, i don't see it doing him any political harm. >> tim pawlenty, this is one of the central pillars of the trump candidacy. i don't need anybody else's money. i don't need a super pac. i don't need any of that. it turns out he does. >> well, the facts kind of matter here, lawrence. based on the clips you showed and i had a quick chance to look at the article...

If somebody is going to try to create scam trump pacs because there's a commercialization of the pac world now. reputable one that has some professionalism or direct authority to do what trump wants it to do or within the boundaries of the law rather than having a bunch of scammers out there taking advantage of his donors. >> charlie cook, your reaction to the super pac. >> i agreed with both kurt and governor pawlenty. number one, trump's campaign is not about money. and if, you know, basically as long as the airplane's up in the air and somebody can schedule events, that's all his campaign r...