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people that would have seen a lot, but that maybe trump wouldn't have noticed. restaurants servers, people like that. >> i think of it the same way. they might be invisible to him. but they are the eyes and ears and they can see things. or they can know things might even be somewhat rumor but then they can at least give the investigators lead so they can tell the investigators who is present in different conversations. seems as though that's what happened with select community on january 6. there are important lower level white house staff that do give testimony for example, the person that greets trump as he enters the white house after his elipse speech and tells him that there's writing down at the capitol, that's an important marker, but that was a lower level staff person he might not have noticed or thought about that conversation. >> now, this is also in the context of a possible indictment seen as a likely indictment in new york, in the hush money payments to stormy daniels and campaign finance, you were with me last night, when the attorney was on the show.

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