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Budget control act, we put built-in protections for many of our priorities should we go over the cliff. and i think it's important for people to see that there are protections. we held medicare homeless to 2% of any cuts. we had initiatives, pell grants and the rest that would be protected. >> so this would put the republicans in a position politically? will it hurt them? >> i think it would hurt them because it's important -- the important thing is that the republicans do not want to touch one hair on the head of one person making over $250,000. that is the rub. we have said let's decouple. l...

We can do it by practically unanimous consent. everybody agrees in the country and in the congress that we should have a middle income tax cut. what is holding it up is the republicans holding it hostage for tax cuts for the wealthy. but left to it on its own, we think it would get a unanimous vote in the congress. >> the boehner proposal on its merit, characterize it for us. >> i think it's an assault on the middle class, seniors, investments in the future. we want to come to the table. we know we have to have growth. if you want to reduce the deficit, create jobs. so we know we have to have ...

Time in the congress. we used to have an expression. it's not the price. it's the money. this is not to be punitive on the people who make over $250,000. it's just to be fair to the entire country. you need that additional revenue in order to reduce the deficit and continue to make investments in growth. >> if speaker boehner says that, you know, we're not going to move on the rates, where are we? >> i hope that's just a bargaining position. but the fact is we have talked about it two step. do a down payment on cuts, on investments and on revenue this year and then in the next year, take the t...

Built-in protections for many of our priorities should we go over the cliff. and i think it's important for people to see that there are protections. we held medicare homeless to 2% of any cuts. we had initiatives, pell grants and the rest that would be protected. >> so this would put the republicans in a position politically? will it hurt them? >> i think it would hurt them because it's important -- the important thing is that the republicans do not want to touch one hair on the head of one person making over $250,000. that is the rub. we have said let's decouple. let's give the american peop...

And in the congress that we should have a middle income tax cut. what is holding it up is the republicans holding it hostage for tax cuts for the wealthy. but left to it on its own, we think it would get a unanimous vote in the congress. >> the boehner proposal on its merit, characterize it for us. >> i think it's an assault on the middle class, seniors, investments in the future. we want to come to the table. we know we have to have growth. if you want to reduce the deficit, create jobs. so we know we have to have growth. we know we have to make cuts. we know we have to have revenue. you can'...