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First black american president and its sensitivity at the white house to matters of race. now, secretary vilsack said today there was no direct white house pressure. for the first time, he allowed how the deputy secretary at the agriculture department who talked to and subsequently fired miss sherrod the first time might have mentioned those conversations, dealings with the white house liaison with the agriculture department. that's the first glimmer of white house involvement of this story before she was fired. he said it wasn't necessarily an expression of pressure that she be fired. in some...

Than 30 minutes long and we used just a small portion of it in which she said that years ago, as an administrator in georgia, she did not help a white farmer with aid as much as she could have because he was white and she thought he was talking down to her. after hearing that statement, i said miss sherrod should resign from the usda and secretary vilsack felt the same way so the woman was fired. what i did not know at the time was that miss sherrod told the farmer's story in order to make this point. >> i come to realize that we have to work together and, you know, it's sad that we don't have...

Vilsack made an honest mistake like you did. and -- >> why not? we both made the same mistakes. >> he's the decision maker. >> but he's running around like i'm running around. he's in ohio. somebody calls him and says this woman said this. he doesn't know who the woman is. i'm going to cut him a little slack. i'll going to say he did exactly what i did. >> cut him all the slack you want. i won't. i think number one, he fired her on instructions from the white house because they wanted to stop fox news from running the story and getting embarrassed and they felt if they fired him after fox ran,...

Administration. how do you explain the -- those three departures? do they really have nothing to do with the campaign that had been waged against them? >> i was asked a larger question about this and my answer doesn't change. why do you do stories on all three of them? >> you can fault the media, if you want. >> i'm not faulting the media, jake, but -- hold on, i'm not here to fault the media. i apologize on behalf of the administration. >> one of the lessons to be learned here that the administration should not be so quick to throw their own people under the bus? >> bill, i don't know that i ...

Banner. should she be doing the people's business with that kind of resume? i don't think so. she should be in the private or charity sector. and that's a memo. i hope it was fair. in a moment, dick morris will analyze a political implications of the story. we'll be right back with morris.