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Dearborn apparently did not set up this meeting but the same committee, house judiciary committee wants to hear from rick dear born. we'll see if cory lewandowski decides to talk about those episodes because in the past, as i said earlier, he has not wanted to do them. >> as you point out, unlike lewandowski, dearborn worked in the white house so the white house may have a better case for executive privilege on that front. thank you very much, manu, for that report. let's bring in caitlyn collins. she's with the president in new jersey. any white house reaction so far to the prospect of cory...

Now, whether or not this was something that's illegal, it doesn't appear to me, at least from what i know, that it is. this is what the fbi does. and it's part of the investigation. it doesn't mean that anything has been proved. but it is part of the investigation process that the phish uses. >> and getting back to your report, hope hicks communications director at the white house, she was going to appear, but now that's been delayed, what, in definitely? >> the question is will she answer any questions? because now you've had bannon and lewandowski both exercise this expression of the possibi...

He didn't report, tax evasion, from my vantage point his exposure far exceeded manafort's. he got off with a slap on the wrist. the clear sign to draw from that is that he's cooperating and may well be shedding light on activities that happened during the campaign. >> or it could be just to cover his rear end or help out his son. >> the fact that it's a potential superseding indictment today, i think back to a couple weeks ago when we heard of manafort and his deputy's initial indictments being brought, people said it doesn't have anything to do with the campaign and now we're learning there's...