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In their minds is whether or not barack obama deserves to be reelected and whether he met the standards that he set for himself when he became president. if the answer to that question is no, then barack obama loses. whether it's mitt romney, newt gingrich, rick or ron paul. martha: they also have to be convinced by the other guy that was put up by republicans can do basically a better job, that is going to be the real question. >> right, right but the president's numbers, it's not like the president's numbers are kind of good and on the edge. these things are off the cliff, and so my point is...

She was part of of the clinton board transition team. she is a daily columnist. and rick louer is here with us also. is this a good idea for him to take a harder line on healthcare as he heeds into the election? >> i'm not convinced that's what he's going to do. there is one article that is claiming that's his plan. i think that his last state of the union he said that he wanted to try to find things where they could work in a bipartisan way on healthcare and they found one thing, so that was basic rerepealing the 1 1099 tax issues. it seems there are not a lot of areas of overlap where democr...