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Than double the size of russia's economy. think about that. russia's utter failure to compete in the global economy means that the only way for vladimir putin to get the world's attention is with troop movements. join us now is rick, secretary of state in the obama administration, he is an msnbc political analyst. rick, vladimir putin is getting the kind of attention that he can only get by sending those over now 140,000 troops to the ukraine border. is it at the stage mission accomplished for putin? >> he has done a lot, lawrence. he is greedy, and hungry for attention. he wants to be on the ...

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I don't think you have a soul. and he looked back at me, and he smiled, and he said, we understand one another. joining us now, is rick -- secretary of state during the obama administration. he is the author of information wars how we lost the global battle against disinformation and what we can do about it. he is an msnbc political analyst. and of course, before all this rick stengel was editor of time magazine, and we have a photograph of you in moscow, in 2007. your interview with vladimir putin then. you are one of the very few people we can get on this program have actually been in the ro...

He just wants to make sure that unlike donald trump, this predictability and stability in the relationship between the united states to russia. that has one american presidents do. >> let's listen to what ron klain said about this. >> meeting with vladimir putin, not because we agree with him, or want an award for good behavior, far from it. we're meeting with him because he is the president of the other great nuclear power on this planet. it is important for these two leaders to sit down and try to find ways in which they can work together in some areas, ways in which they can exchange views ...

Until charges are ultimately filed or an announcement is made that the grand jury has concluded its business without the return of charges. but it does seem that convening a grand jury is a significant step in this investigation. because we know that ty vance is had those documents now for sometime. the tax records. and if after their analysis they did not see that there was any evidence of a crime there, they would've shut it down without convening in this grand jury. the fact that they have gathered together citizens to present evidence and go through this burden, says to me that the likelih...