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>> it seems like an opportune time to sound a cautionary note, right? i would like to get both of your thoughts on this, even if you talk about the aspects of the georgia case that seem most on their face wrong potentially criminal against the law, like the call to brad raffensperger, that's actually a pretty hard thing to prove in court. setting aside trump's intent, the washington post points out that trump did not spell out explicitly that he wanted raffensperger to break the law or find the votes. a lot of people say, what do you mean? he said find me 11,780 votes. but barb, really, the ba...

Does not seal the text. >> there's also the town hall sound. there is the town hall statement, or response, that former president trump gave a few weeks ago saying, if this call is bad i said, you only votes because the election was rigged. the election was rigged. that was seem to buffett any prosecutorial case that this was a criminal conduct on trump 's part. but i'm not a lawyer. and you are, harry, i would like to get your thoughts not just on the raffensperger call but even on the fake electors plot, which again seems, on its face, how could that not be something nefarious? how could tha...

Case which would be gargantuan. because that also lets her sweep in criminal conduct from other states. i wouldn't be so sure about that yet because as you say there's a very good reason she would need it without bringing rico. and rico would really make this case gargantuan with the history of a large politically tinge prosecutions in this country is not a happy one. so we'd be biting off a much, much more than she has to. >> can you talk about the rico chart potential rico case, barb? because whenever fani willis's name is mentioned, rico racketeering is like soon to follow. and a lot of fol...

Barbara and harry are of course also msnbc legal analysts. thank you for being here. harry, let me first start with your reaction to the subpoenas that we are finding out about in fulton county and how meaningful you think they are in the building of a larger case against trump vis-ã -vis his efforts to steal the election. >> so i think they're very meaningful but for exactly the reason you said, that is, they show that when trump, january 2nd, is calling raffensperger, he already has the information that it's a lie. and that makes a charge under georgia law of solicitation to commit election...

Let the justice department handle the national scope. >> just to stay on this for one more second, harry, you can build a racketeering case in georgia. part of the reason that reporting has suggested that maybe this is a more national rico case, which would be novel, is because these firms that we are talking about, the ones that were enlisted by the trump campaign to determine whether there was election fraud, they looked at activities in georgia, pennsylvania, arizona, nevada, michigan, and wisconsin. so it sounds like the thinking there, and this is really outside the box thinking is, many ...