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And more revealed and folks sit back and go, maybe there is a there there. >> phil rucker, mike pence in the driveway. how do you say that there was no green light? this takes a heap of denial from top to bottom that this didn't entirely change when donald trump hung up the phone with erdogan. >> i mean, brian, it all change when donald trump hang up the phone with erdogan. part of what was going on there, president trump was not following a script, he was kind of rif'ing with president erdogan. he was not following the direction of his advisers. for months now the national security team aroun...

So, this is now becoming more and more revealed and folks sit back and go, maybe there is a there there. >> phil rucker, mike pence in the driveway. how do you say that there was no green light? this takes a heap of denial from top to bottom that this didn't entirely change when donald trump hung up the phone with erdogan. >> i mean, brian, it all change when donald trump hang up the phone with erdogan. part of what was going on there, president trump was not following a script, he was kind of rif'ing with president erdogan. he was not following the direction of his advisers. for months now th...