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good afternoon. this is almost no idea more un-american then the notion that any one person could choose the american president, no idea more un-american. i agree with that. which is unusual because former vice president mike pence and i don't agree on much. these are his words spoken a few months ago about donald trump's attempt to pressure the former vice president pressure him into going along with an unlawful and unconstitutional scheme to overturn the 2020 and give dawn trump a second tournament office. today, the select committee is going to reveal the details of that pressure ...

Understand. >> judge luttig, another risk oversimplifying for the non lawyers who are watching, is it feel fair to say that the 12th amendment basically says that two things happen, the vice president opens the certificate, and the electoral votes are counted, is that straightforward? >> i would not want that to be my testimony before the congress of the united states. the language of the tournament is that sentiment. >> thank you, judge. mr., jacob i have a question for you. i believe that during your deposition before this committee, you said something to the effect of, you read every word w...