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Numbers out there. and so, what he's missing is, if we bring the price down by negotiating between our groups, we can get him a great bill, and i don't think he's being told that's the case. >> so, fellow member of the freedom caucus, justin amosh, he had something to say in direct response to the president this morning. i want to lead you the tweet he put out. he wrote this -- "it didn't take long for the swamp to drain, donald trump. no shame, mr. president. almost everyone succumbs to d.c. establishment." do you agree with justin amash? >> i never get into the personal stuff. i just stick t...

Repeal. i would throw it to the senate. i wouldn't write another bill in the house based upon senate rules. the 60 vote thing is something the senate uses a as an excuse when they don't want to do anything. the repeal of obamacare was passed in this senate a year ago. so start building a market in the insurance business and the bills are already out there. sell issing insurance across state lines, creating risk pools, co-ops, all the things that you need to be ready for people that are coming off of obamacare to go into the market and buy the insurance they need. then as it is right now, polit...

Short. we were close, but not quite there. on your other issues, this bill would have made what we call phase two much, much better. nevertheless, i think there are some things that the secretary of hhs can do to try and sort of stabilize things, but really we needed this bill to make it better. for instance, risk pools, we believe the smarter way to help people with preexisting conditions get affordable coverage while bringing down the health care costs for everybody else is through reinsurance risk or risk sharing pools which this bill supplied for the states. that is not now going to happen...

Republicans offer rather than saying that insurance rates are going down because they're not. >> well, premiums went up about 60% on average for about everybody who has been notice individual market and for some much more than that. and the reason is they allow the risk pools to dump their sick people into this market and allow the city of detroit to dump 8,000 people into this market. >> let me stop you there. that's exactly the topic i want to get in. how do you do this without creating a bigger risk pool? >> you don't allow them to dump sick people into this tiny little market. i helped pet...

Seven years and we came a little short. we were close but not quite there. on the other issues, this bill would have made, what we call phase two, much, much better. nevertheless, i think there are some things that the secretary of hhs can go to try to stabilize things. but really, we needed this bill to make it better. for instance, risk pools. we believe the smarter way to help people with pre-existing conditions get affordable coverage while bringing down the health care costs for everybody else is through reinsurance, risk or risk-sharing pools, which this bill supplied for the states. tha...