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That kind of game where they just take a snapshot and say, okay, on january 6th, well, there's this independent force that's pushing for agitation and so on. therefore ignore everything in the proceeding. and this is what i think congress is looking at this committee is, you know, understanding the full narrative, which doesn't begin, of course, on january 6th. it begins earlier with trump, you know, saying stop the steal and all sorts of stuff, hiring john eastman, this law professor in quotes to write a memo saying, seven states can send a rival slate of electors. and then indeed it's come o...

Concerned about the ramifications and trying to stop it. and my advice is, take every legal pathway you have to do that. i think maricopa county at this point probably wishes they had appealed the subpoena. and that would have gone a long way to try to squash this and really stop the sowing of doubt. >> for more, i want to turn to my panel, eugene daniels coauthor of prosecution playbook", lauren gambino of the guardian. and the author of the new book titled "resistance, how women saved democracy from donald trump". i want to read you something that jamal buoy from the "new york times" writes....