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Complicated know ro northbound understands it well i have to talk to my lawyer. he wouldn't say that he would produce the information for the american people it was a troubling performance. >> did you ask him whether or not he worked closely with leader pelosi or former h.h.s. secretary sebelius or the president? because one of the big issues is whether or not he really was sort of key to the statute or whether he was on the sidelines. >> so he did acknowledge that he briefed the president in the oval office. he said that only happened one time. but he said, look, i'm not the architect. all i ...

Apologize. what i'm struggling with is whether your apology is whether you you said it or because you meant it. >> in a strange way i appreciate what you said in the videos because it seems to me in the first time someone came clean and told the truth. you told people you were actually. >> i behaved sadly i have to live with that. >> they gave the opponent of the aca a pr gift. man, you did a great job. you wrapped it up, put a bow on it. congressman ron -- one of today's gruber barbecuers, he joins us. good evening, sir. >> good evening. >> did you get all the answers you wanted from mr. grub...