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Mariupol, clearly mariupol will be surrounded and reduced in some way and then the russians will get this famous land bridge between crimea and russia proper. the other important strategic aspect of their success to the south is i think if they can secure key road junctions and key parts of the infrastructure they then open the way to be able to push north and potentially if they can push south from places like kharkiv and someone, they run the big chance of being able to catch a significant part of ukraine's armed forces in the eastern part of the country. they essentially end up dividing ukr...

What is the message and how much impact is it having? just briefly then, justin, are they going to annoy people more than they are going to achieve their aims? yeah, you know, there have been actions that other extinction rebellion activists thought weren't appropriate. they have calibrated this very carefully, they occupy road junctions but they are not very busy road junctions. they have got these great dramatic sculptures, they're actually quite careful not to cause too much disruption. a little bit but not too much. that's what they're hoping. yeah, it is a balancing act, isn't it? thank y...

Of extinction rebellion. and people just couldn't connect the dots. and even extinction rebellion had to acknowledge that maybe it wasn't the best tactic, which suggest that this is a group of well—meaning people on the one hand and some anarchists and people who have attached themselves to it on the other. and this is always the problem with these kind of protest groups. what is the message and how much impact is it having? just briefly then, justin, are they going to annoy people more than they are going to achieve their aims? yeah, you know, there have been actions that other extinction r...

More than they are going to achieve their aims? yeah, you know, there have been actions that other extinction rebellion activists thought weren't appropriate. they have calibrated this very carefully, they occupy road junctions but they are not very busy road junctions. they have got these great dramatic sculptures, they're actually quite careful not to cause too much disruption. a little bit but not too much. that's what they're hoping. yeah, it is a balancing act, isn't it? thank you very much. thank you to marc and to jeffrey and to justin. that is all we have time for this week. do join us...

Stopped — remember in october 2019 they stopped tubes here in london, which 'ust stopped tubes here in london, which just mystified commuters who were on this energy— just mystified commuters who were on this energy efficient electrified railway— this energy efficient electrified railway getting to work. and they glued _ railway getting to work. and they glued themselves to the tube trains in the _ glued themselves to the tube trains in the name of extinction rebellion. and people just couldn't connect the dots _ and people just couldn't connect the dots and _ and people just couldn't co...