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Stopped remember in october 2019 they stopped tubes here in london, which ust stopped tubes here in london, which just mystified commuters who were on this energy just mystified commuters who were on this energy efficient electrified railway this energy efficient electrified railway getting to work. and they glued railway getting to work. and they glued themselves to the tube trains in the glued themselves to the tube trains in the name of extinction rebellion. and people just couldn t connect the dots and people just couldn t connect the dots and and people just couldn t connect the dots. and even extinction rebellion had to dots. and even extinction rebellion had to acknowledge that it maybe wasn t had to acknowledge that it maybe wasn t the best tactic, which suggest wasn t the best tactic, which suggest that this isn t a group of well meaning people on the one hand and some well meaning people on the one hand and some anarchists and people who have attached them ....
After the taliban takeover. 90 people were killed, mostly afghan civilians, and 13 us military personnel. a local branch of islamic state called is k or isis k said they carried out that attack. throughout the week, about 100,000 people were evacuated but thousands more have been left behind. there is a huge refugee crisis in the making and a possible humanitarian disaster in afghanistan as money runs out and food disappears. it couldn t be much worse, or could it? justin, let s start with you. you know afghanistan well. you used to be in contact regular with the taliban. they are a highly organised group of people but to what extent was it inevitable that afghanistan would fall to them and fall so quickly? well, when i was covering afghanistan, the government held most of the urban centres and the taliban held most of the countryside. so if you just looked at the area of the country controlled by the taliban, it controlled more than the government. and this was in the period when the ....
Infrastructure build that you have spoken infrastructure build that you have spoken about, a good chunk of it is going spoken about, a good chunk of it is going towards the environment, towards going towards the environment, towards environmental clean up, towards towards environmental clean up, towards making the environment, addressing the issues of climate change. addressing the issues of climate change, the electrification of cars, networks change, the electrification of cars, networks of charge points across the us. networks of charge points across the us so networks of charge points across the us so i networks of charge points across the us. so i think that there is a significant effort. people have every significant effort. people have every right to feel impatient and a sense every right to feel impatient and a sense of every right to feel impatient and a sense of panic about climate change, the climate sense of panic about climate change, the climate emer ....
It is a terrible, terrible tragedy that is unfolding. justin, marc mentioned the fact that the country is broke. they are going to need some money. that is the leverage potentially for the west to deal with the taliban. but as people are trying to get out, we need to get humanitarian aid in for the people left behind. how inclined, in your experience, were the taliban to accept that sort of help? i mean, not necessarily inclined at all. but you have got to remember there are other players here. i mean, afghanistan was obviously the centre of the so called great game back in the victorian era and there is a great game still playing out in afghanistan. the chinese and the russians have indicated that they may be interested in supporting afghanistan. and the chinese for instance were advertising their ability to build new infrastructure in afghanistan. and have already been talking about this. so i don t think that the west has a unique franchise in afghanistan. there are other nations wh ....
So that is going to be very interesting to see how that plays out. and the extent to which the support of these nations will allow the taliban to keep control of the country. you wonder, marc, whether the eu, the united states misstepped here. maybe do you think they recognised sufficiently how much of an opportunity china and russia would see this moment as being as justin has just explained? well, as we heard, the americans. of course misinterpreted completely. the europeans were really i depending on the americans, so they were not particularly i interested about what is going on with russia and china. i think the ball is - in the american camp. they are the only superpower now. europe is no longer a superpower because it doesn t have, - as i said, a defence policy. ....