stopped — remember in october 2019 they stopped tubes here in london, which 'ust stopped tubes here in london, which just mystified commuters who were on this energy— just mystified commuters who were on this energy efficient electrified railway— this energy efficient electrified railway getting to work. and they glued _ railway getting to work. and they glued themselves to the tube trains in the _ glued themselves to the tube trains in the name of extinction rebellion. and people just couldn't connect the dots _ and people just couldn't connect the dots and _ and people just couldn't connect the dots. and even extinction rebellion had to— dots. and even extinction rebellion had to acknowledge that it maybe wasn't _ had to acknowledge that it maybe wasn't the best tactic, which suggest _ wasn't the best tactic, which suggest that this isn't a group of well—meaning people on the one hand and some _ well—meaning people on the one hand and some anarchists and people who have attached themselves to it on the other — have attached themselves to it on the other. and this is always the problem — the other. and this is always the problem with these kind of protest groups _ problem with these kind of protest groups. what is the message and how much _ groups. what is the message and how much impact is having? just groups. what is the message and how much impact is having?— much impact is having? just briefly then, much impact is having? just briefly then. justin. _ much impact is having? just briefly then, justin, are _ much impact is having? just briefly then, justin, are they _ much impact is having? just briefly then, justin, are they going - much impact is having? just briefly then, justin, are they going to - then, justin, are they going to annoy people more than they are going to achieve their aims? you know, going to achieve their aims? you know. there _ going to achieve their aims? you know, there have _ going to achieve their aims? gm. know, there have been actions that other extinction rebellion activists thought weren't appropriate. they have calibrated this very carefully, they occupy road junctions but they are not very busy road junctions. that these great dramatic sculptures, they're actually quite careful not to cause too much disruption. a little bit but not too