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Someone says i got a firearm that you panic and you shoot, you shouldn't be a cop. i'm sorry and as i indicated before, harry pointed out that ccw permit holders are trained in the methodology of getting stopped. that is true but police officers are also trained and the bottom line is as soon as you know this individual has a gun, you have to go ahead and freeze the situation, as i indicated. and the simplest thing to do is say put your hands on the steering wheel and you can go through whatever points of information you need to safely execute the traffic stop. so there's so many things that w...

Where it closes and locks. he's in a bad position. the argument they tried to make is they thought they were looking for a robbery suspect. you say back, you get him out of the car. there's so much. we could go into this point by point. it was a complete failure and ended in someone's death. >> mr. castile did not follow the police officer's -- >> you saw with your own eyes. so why did the jury acquit the officer? is there a different standard when a police officer is the one pulling the trigger? we're going to be joined by a jury consultant and attorney. we'll be right back. i realize that ah...

Weapon. >> i mean how do you know? >> i don't know -- >> how do you know he wasn't going forri a gun? we know now but the fact is that officer looking inside that vehicle saw the hand movement going towards what he thought was a gun and he's telling him not to go for it, then the officer fired. how can you question that? i mean, really? >> let him answer, harry. >> here's the deal. why is he so far forward? we both know in a traffic stop you're supposed to be back behind the b pillar so you put the driver at a advantage. secondly, the argument -- the argument was supposedly we believe we're de...

And then take the bullets out of the weapon. >> why didn't he ask him to exit the vehicle then? >> that's the procedure for anybody with a concealed carry weapon. >> why didn't he ask him to exit the vehicle? >> i think the other thing -- >> probably because he didn't have the time. >> if you look at the position of this officer, he is too far forward. he should have been behind the b pillar, instead of between the a and the b, that's between where the front door swings from, the hinge is the a pillar, the b pillar is where it closes and locks. then you have the back door. he's in a bad positi...

>> if you get so scared when someone says, i've got a firearm, that you panic and you shoot, you shouldn't be a cop. i'm sorry. as i indicated before, harry pointed out that ccw permit holders are trained in the methodology of getting stopped. that's true. but police officers are also trained. and the bottom line is, soon as you have an idea this individual has a gun, you have to go ahead and freeze the situation. as i indicated. and the simplest thing to do is say, put your hands on the steering wheel, and then you can go through whatever other points of information you believe you need to co...